A blow by blow account of getting a kitchen made on Long Island, New York

Wednesday, August 1, 2007

Granite countertops are cool

Yesterday the granite counter tops were put in. This puts us one step closer to a finished kitchen.

It is amazing how much more finished the job looks when the counters are in. The colors for the two counter areas compliment each other as well as the cabinetry and the tile floors.

We had even asked the granite place to save the piece they cut out for the big sink and they offered to cut it round so we made a lazy susan out of it and put it on the island. It really looks great.

The only thing they screwed up was my wife's desk area. Apparently they are really good at measuring everything else, but when it comes to measuring a 3x2 square they have no idea how to do it. This piece (which isn't connected to any of the other pieces) was 1/2 inch short. They offered for us to keep it, but I'm not sure what to do with a really heavy piece with a small hole in it for cables. Maybe I'll make a table, or just let them take it back.

My wife thinks this is all a tease because she can't actually use the kitchen yet. The plumber (who is on vacation this week) needs to hook up the sinks, stove top (which is still not in yet), dishwashers, garbage disposals and hot water dispenser, as well as finalize the radiant heat floor and my hookup to the BBQ outside.

The contractor needs to put in the tile backsplash (after my wife picks out the tile), do some small finish work including hooking up an electrical box and putting in drawer handles.

After that we can get the wood floors stained and sanded, and I need to do some touch-up painting.

Then I can clean up the remnants of construction. I think we're looking at about 2-3 weeks more before it's all done.

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Sunday, June 10, 2007

How to make tons of money at a second job.

Construction is a big sinkhole of expenses.

When the 'experts' tell you to put aside 20% more than you budgeted for, you can rest assured they are not kidding. I wrote in a previous column about how to avoid the incremental costs of home construction add-ons, and this article is not a repeat of that one, but it is how I am combating the "geez that's not included" costs.

The first cost is the cost of attic insulation.
In my mind if you take a wall (or a ceiling in this case) down you put in insulation, thus reducing your total cost to heat the house. Apparently, my contractor deems this an "extra" in the case of attic insulation. I can sort of see his point, given it isn't really part of the job, and doesn’t abut the outside, but it would be stupid not to take the opportunity to insulate.

As luck would have it, the previous owners left 2+ rolls of R-19 insulation. This was top of the line stuff that they never used and has been sitting in my attic for 5 years. So boom, I'm doing insulation. Putting the insulation would have cost me about $250+ materials from the contractor. My cost: $40 for the extra insulation I needed to purchase.

The second add on was running phone line.
How this is an extra, I don't know. There was a phone line when we started; I expected one to be there when we ended. It's like saying adding electric was extra, because he had to rip off the sheetrock. (Luckily, we both agree electric is a necessary and included part of the construction). But, I digress.

Since I ran the phone line myself after the "why doesn't the phone work in here" incident of '02 when the phone company in removing the 2nd phone line from the previous owner, cut the main line instead of the secondary, making the built in kitchen line dead, I needed to run my own line. So this was not a tremendous problem. Adding about $100 to my savings by doing it myself.

Addition #3 was entirely my brainchild, the addition of speaker wire to the deck.
We had speaker wire run around the baseboards to the outside, and this was a fantastic opportunity to run it correctly through the walls while they were open. This did mean crawling around in the attic and snaking wire through walls we weren't touching, and adding a nifty box on the wall to receive these wires, but at least it would be done right, and not get in the way while cleaning. Savings: $200+ materials.

Adding lights outside was entirely my wife's doing, and brings us to addition #4.
We had a perfectly serviceable (ugly) light on the outside, and the contractor was perfectly prepared to hook that light to a brand new switch. My wife had other ideas, so now I put on my electrical hat and hooked up 2 new outside wall sconces. The trouble with this had very little to do with electrical work since the walls were bare to actually do the work, but since the old light was really big and the sconces a nice delicate (nice looking) illumination option I needed to do some siding to replace the old light, plus had to make some nifty holes for the second sconce that did not originally exist.

The wife had purchased these lights last year, and I had dutifully put off the entire job since last summer, so the materials cost was nil. The cost of the work would have easily been $300 (we priced it last year).

This takes us to #5, cable tv hookup.
This one has a bit of flavor of #3 and some of #2, being there was cable in the room, but it was going to be entirely on the wrong side of the room. This one has a story sports fans, one that leaves my hunting with flashlights at 11pm to get internet connectivity back up.

Running the cable wire was no big deal. The actual cable is expensive ($88), but doable. I also purchased a cutting and crimping tool, a good one for $12. I can't say enough how having the right tools makes your life sooooo much easier.

After snaking the wires to two different locations, the main location and an extra one on the other side of the room, just in case I hooked up the cable to what I thought was the dead line going into the kitchen. The cable worked like a charm on the first try, and I went about my business until I needed to connect to the Internet.

The long and the short of it was that there were two lines running around the deck, the first one for TV, and the second one for Internet. The Internet one was added a few years back, because we were not getting a reliable signal to the Internet.

Now, the dope that hooked this up thought it would be a smashing good idea to run the cable over to where the first one was, and then snake it 1/2 way around the house to where we wanted it to go. This bit of work, was long forgotten when I unscrewed the incorrect cable line to hook to the new kitchen area, thus disconnecting the internet connectivity.

Luckily for me, I did not cut these wires, and the connections were in the same general place, so fixing the problem did not mean re-wiring. Savings: $150 of wiring.

Now, the sheetrock is almost hung, and I am no longer in the workman's way, but as a happy note by my estimation I have saved $1,000 + materials, some of which I had.

Good for me, now I can give up my second job. At least until the painting begins.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2007

First day of construction

Yesterday the workmen actually came and ripped out the old kitchen. While the floor and some of the walls are in place the majority of everything else has been removed.

What I was most impressed with is the tidiness of the place when I got home last night. I guess I expected more kayos.

The one thing that did not arrive yesterday was the dumpster, so the workmen piled the garbage on a tarp and covered it so it would not go all over the neighborhood.

Our house is a split level so it was interesting to be able to see the bathroom pipes behind the exposed wall. If I was more gung-ho I would use this opportunity to remove the tub trap and clean in out since I won't get this opportunity again.

Shown to the right is what it looks like after the demolition has been started at the end of day 1.

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Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Lights are green, up is go.

After an extra month of waiting the workmen and their associated dumspter should be showing up today before 9am.

This is a fantastic opportunity to see the current kitchen and dining room without all the associated garbage and such. Shown next to this post is the dining room on the left and the kitchen on the right. These are in actual proximity to each other in the layout from the house.

When completed the kitchen will span the area of the two photos along the back wall, and the dining area, now a formal dining area will be an informal dining area in the front area of the photos.

The two windows on the left (marked with an ‘A’) will be going to Habitat for Humanity. These are the new windows I put in about a year ago. The bay window (marked with a ‘B’) will also be going to the same place. The last bay window (marked with a ‘C’) will be replaced with a new bay window. And the dividing wall between the two rooms will be removed, and replaced with a beam.

We spent the better part of last night cleaning out the cabinets and moving furniture out and setting up our secondary kitchen in the laundry room, where it will be for the next three months.

Now lets see if they show up.

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Tuesday, May 1, 2007

Counter tops

In anticipation of getting the kitchen done we needed to go and pick granite for the counter top, so Saturday morning I was in a warehouse with about 60 different types or granite and marble arranged in large slabs that could crush you at any moment.

Apparently the way this works is you actually pick not only the type you want but the actual slab(s) they will use to craft into your counter. It reminds me somewhat of the 'pick your own cow' before they take it and slaughter it for you.

The only problem with all of this is that they don't actually move the slabs on Saturday (apparently there are only 2 sales people on Saturday) so what we ended up picking was the top pieces we saw. One for the island and a darker piece for the other counter.

My wife has had enough of this counter top stuff and has been subjected to a wide assortment of stone, so she would have gone with the pink polka dot marble had I insisted.

The sales guy who helped us said that you only pay for the part that they use, a fact that I don't really believe. One good tip I had heard was to ask for the extra pieces since you paid a premium for it. I figured I would use the extra for a cutting board. It would make a good contrast on the island with the darker cutting board.

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Wednesday, April 18, 2007

Windows on my mind.

The new kitchen moves around the entire layout of the area and because of this many of the windows need to be removed or replaced.

There are 4 windows in the kitchen area, 2 bay windows that are kind of older and sagging a bit and two brand new windows that were replaced a little over a year ago, long before we decided to re-do the kitchen.

These new windows are great. The ones they replaced were awful, they were the old metal casement windows, plenty drafty and made the room cold. The new ones are triple-e glass, with enough Kryponite gas between them to stop Superman. When I put these in I decided to get really good windows since the room was cold already because it is over the addition to the house and not well insulated.

The unfortunate part is the new kitchen is smack dab in the middle of these two new windows, as well as one of the older bay windows and as such need to go.

This pains me greatly, because a) they're new and b) they were expensive.

The only upside to this is that my wife has contacted Habitat for Humanity who not only will take the windows and re-use them but also find new homes for our refrigerator and stove.

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Thursday, April 12, 2007

Tile Floors

The tile floor in my current kitchen is one of the main reasons we want to redo the kitchen. As you can see from the images on the right the floor stinks. This floor was never put in correctly in the first place, but we bought it this way.

Apparently the previous owner's wife had the floor put in while the husband was away on business, and was too meek and mild mannered to complain about the shoddy workmanship. This was strange given she was always very outspoken in our dealings with her.

This floor was put in so poorly that there is mud (tile mastic) along edges of the room, big globs of it (image on the left side). The tiles were laid on an uneven surface, leading to the poor specimen on the right, where tiles crack and break. This occurs in numerous places on the floor.

Now, if the husband or relative had put in the floor and it turned out like this, I guess you pretty much live with it to keep peace in the household, but a contractor? No way. I would have been on the phone with the better business bureau before the grout had set if I couldn't get resolution.

If I could find out who these people are, I would certainly credit them for the work, but alas I don't know any more than I have said.

I've laid tile in the past, and truthfully it can be a big pain in the butt, especially cutting them for the edges. It takes a lot of work and scrubbing to make sure the tiles are clean of mastic and grout before it sets, but if you don't the tiles will look dingy and dirt will collect where you don't want it to.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007

Kitchen Layout

One of the most dramatic things we are doing with the kitchen is revising the layout. I've included the new layout to the right (click on it to make it bigger).

My wife tortured the folks at kitchenscapes to get just what she wanted.

The kitchen is big. As you can see from the layout there is an island that four people can live on for a month (given enough water) and a wrapping L shape that contains all the counter, cabinet and appliance space.

What you don't see from the layout is where the kitchen currently is, which is the long empty space on the right. Yes, we're not just moving the kitchen we're sending it out of town.

This isn't as bad as you think. Back in the late 70s there was a kitchen addition added to the space which dramatically opened up the space. If you picture a vertical line right where the left side of the island is, that's where the original kitchen stopped. Everything to the left of that imaginary line is part of the addition, to the right was kitchen. So it made perfect sense having the kitchen stuff along the top left, with the bottom left being a formal dining area.

Our new layout is a semi-formal dining area (the big chunk of white space on the right 1/3), which really means "no walls". You can see from the kitchen to the dining area to the living room (to the right of the entire layout that you can't see).

Hopefully this won't be a problem for my wife who is the consummate pack rat, messy person (Messypersons of America, member #0067, Long Island Division), and piles of crap don't start to appear on the various counter tops and on her desk area which is in the bottom center of the cabinet layout.



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Tuesday, April 10, 2007

The order of things.

The contractor was supposed to start on the new kitchen on Monday and I'm still at a bit of a loss as to what exactly they are going to do and in what order.

I say, "was supposed to start on Monday" because as I began writing this blog I got a call from my wife saying that the cabinets are delayed by two weeks, and I don't understand fully how that impacts them starting on Monday.

By my estimate this is how I think it will go for the 3 months they say they are going to be around:
  1. Demo the space
    Remove all the existing cabinetry, appliances wallboard, existing floor tile.
  2. Add Framing
    Since we're moving the layout around a new structural beam needs to be added and some walls need to be moved around.
  3. Run Electrical/Piping
    Rough in all the stuff that's behind walls and under floors.
  4. Size the floor
    Make the floor flat, getting rid of existing mud and putting in plywood floors to work on.
  5. Replace the windows
    Some windows are going, some are being added.
  6. Lay radiant heating
    Since the radiant heating is going to be under the floor tiles, this needs to be done earlier than later.
  7. Lighting
    Put up new lighting options for recessed lights.
  8. Sheetrock walls
    Cover up all of the stuff to get ready for cabinetry
  9. Tile Floor
    I assume this gets done before the cabinets are hung.
  10. Install Cabinets
    Rough in the cabinets and make room for appliances.
  11. Install Appliances
    This all needs to be in to do the counter tops.
  12. Install Counter tops
    Stuff needs to be measured for the appliances and the actual room.
  13. Tile Backsplash
    Now that the counter tops and cabinets are in we can do some cosmetic stuff.
  14. Install Fixtures/Water
    Once the counter tops are in, the task of connecting all the parts begins.
  15. Finish Electrical/Lighting
    Put boxes in where the roughing was done for switches and appliances.
  16. Lay Wood Floors
    Part of the space has wood flooring in the dining area.
  17. Paint Walls
    This is my part of the whole job, and will save about 3 grand from the construction price if I do it myself
  18. Finish floors
    After all the construction guys are gone, it is our responsibility to get the wood floor finished. This is an additional few hundred dollars that are not in the estimate.
So, the question becomes, if the cabinets are step 10, why is there a delay in starting, and what can we do to minimize other delays.

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Monday, April 9, 2007

To Pod or Not to Pod

In order to redo your kitchen you need to first move all the crap that is in the current kitchen and either throw it away or put it somewhere.

If you have a garage, this is relatively easy, just haul it out there and you're good to go. But if you are like me and your garage has been converted to living space then you must consider other alternatives such as a pod.

For those of you unaware, a pod is mobile storage unit that they put on a flatbed truck and they bring to you. This saves you taking your boxes and furniture to the local storage place, which requires a truck anyhow, plus it is a real pain in the butt to move your stuff anywhere else.

Now, the problem with a pod is the expense. For 3 months of on-site storage it will cost a bit under $1000. In the grand scheme of things, this is not a big nut, but since it is one of the only things I have control over right now, I am trying to avoid this thing.

Doing this requires me to take all of my stuff and put it somewhere else in the house or leave it with relatives.

The boxes of dishes and cookware are mostly in the attic, a glider/rocker is going to my sister (for good) and the current kitchen table/chairs which we won't need after the new kitchen are going to my mothers. This leaves a big couch and chair, dining room set and assorted crap which now goes from 3 rooms down to 1 (the living room) which is not going to be touched.

So, right now no pod for me, and $1000 back in my pocket.

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Financing your kitchen.

Through the miracle of modern technology my lovely spouse submitted a virtual application for a home equity loan this morning. At this point however it makes a better story to back up a about a month.

One month ago:
The wife was bothering me about getting the home equity line of credit to pay for this new kitchen, so I relented and walked into the local CitiBank and asked to speak to a representative, because of course, this is what you did when you wanted a loan, you walk into a bank and say that you are a good person and you promise to pay them back if the give you the sack of cash with the $ on the outside.

I thought this was true, and most of all my wife thought this was true.

Apparently CitiBank does not think this is the way things work anymore, because they were really happy to give us the line of credit, but for the best rate you needed sign up online.

We felt really bad for the guy in the bank because his honesty lost him a "sale", but 1/2 point is a big deal when you are borrowing a chunk of cash.

Additionally, you get 1/4 point reduction for the first 2 months you use the line of credit.

Now, I don't know but this seems a little dysfunctional. I need to sign up at home and not plan on having the loan until the last minute, because by the time we start to use the line of credit it will be about the time of construction and wouldn't want to waste the 2 month discount.

In a normal world you would think you line up the credit long before you need it, and can do it on a handshake.

The end of the story is that you STILL need to fax your signature over anyway, because eLoans only goes so far, but now at least we have a loan.

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Saturday, April 7, 2007

The new Kitchen.

A number of months ago I relented in letting my wife get a new kitchen.
At the time we had a number of options including:
  • Leaving the kitchen as is.
    This was not a popular option but it would save me the most money.
  • Re-doing the kitchen in place.
    This was the most cost effective option. It would get me a new kitchen at about 1/2 the cost of the last option.
  • Moving the kitchen layout around.
    The most expensive and time consuming option.

Now, if I went for the sensible option, we were talking about 40-50 grand (close 'dem mouths, this was the GOOD option), if we went with the most expensive option, then it would be 80-100 grand.

From my perspective my choices were pretty clear cut. If I go for the less expensive option then my wife would not be happy, and in the long run I guess I wouldn't be. The more expensive option was about 50 grand more, but at least she would be happy for a long time (so I hope).

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