A blow by blow account of getting a kitchen made on Long Island, New York

Sunday, June 10, 2007

How to make tons of money at a second job.

Construction is a big sinkhole of expenses.

When the 'experts' tell you to put aside 20% more than you budgeted for, you can rest assured they are not kidding. I wrote in a previous column about how to avoid the incremental costs of home construction add-ons, and this article is not a repeat of that one, but it is how I am combating the "geez that's not included" costs.

The first cost is the cost of attic insulation.
In my mind if you take a wall (or a ceiling in this case) down you put in insulation, thus reducing your total cost to heat the house. Apparently, my contractor deems this an "extra" in the case of attic insulation. I can sort of see his point, given it isn't really part of the job, and doesn’t abut the outside, but it would be stupid not to take the opportunity to insulate.

As luck would have it, the previous owners left 2+ rolls of R-19 insulation. This was top of the line stuff that they never used and has been sitting in my attic for 5 years. So boom, I'm doing insulation. Putting the insulation would have cost me about $250+ materials from the contractor. My cost: $40 for the extra insulation I needed to purchase.

The second add on was running phone line.
How this is an extra, I don't know. There was a phone line when we started; I expected one to be there when we ended. It's like saying adding electric was extra, because he had to rip off the sheetrock. (Luckily, we both agree electric is a necessary and included part of the construction). But, I digress.

Since I ran the phone line myself after the "why doesn't the phone work in here" incident of '02 when the phone company in removing the 2nd phone line from the previous owner, cut the main line instead of the secondary, making the built in kitchen line dead, I needed to run my own line. So this was not a tremendous problem. Adding about $100 to my savings by doing it myself.

Addition #3 was entirely my brainchild, the addition of speaker wire to the deck.
We had speaker wire run around the baseboards to the outside, and this was a fantastic opportunity to run it correctly through the walls while they were open. This did mean crawling around in the attic and snaking wire through walls we weren't touching, and adding a nifty box on the wall to receive these wires, but at least it would be done right, and not get in the way while cleaning. Savings: $200+ materials.

Adding lights outside was entirely my wife's doing, and brings us to addition #4.
We had a perfectly serviceable (ugly) light on the outside, and the contractor was perfectly prepared to hook that light to a brand new switch. My wife had other ideas, so now I put on my electrical hat and hooked up 2 new outside wall sconces. The trouble with this had very little to do with electrical work since the walls were bare to actually do the work, but since the old light was really big and the sconces a nice delicate (nice looking) illumination option I needed to do some siding to replace the old light, plus had to make some nifty holes for the second sconce that did not originally exist.

The wife had purchased these lights last year, and I had dutifully put off the entire job since last summer, so the materials cost was nil. The cost of the work would have easily been $300 (we priced it last year).

This takes us to #5, cable tv hookup.
This one has a bit of flavor of #3 and some of #2, being there was cable in the room, but it was going to be entirely on the wrong side of the room. This one has a story sports fans, one that leaves my hunting with flashlights at 11pm to get internet connectivity back up.

Running the cable wire was no big deal. The actual cable is expensive ($88), but doable. I also purchased a cutting and crimping tool, a good one for $12. I can't say enough how having the right tools makes your life sooooo much easier.

After snaking the wires to two different locations, the main location and an extra one on the other side of the room, just in case I hooked up the cable to what I thought was the dead line going into the kitchen. The cable worked like a charm on the first try, and I went about my business until I needed to connect to the Internet.

The long and the short of it was that there were two lines running around the deck, the first one for TV, and the second one for Internet. The Internet one was added a few years back, because we were not getting a reliable signal to the Internet.

Now, the dope that hooked this up thought it would be a smashing good idea to run the cable over to where the first one was, and then snake it 1/2 way around the house to where we wanted it to go. This bit of work, was long forgotten when I unscrewed the incorrect cable line to hook to the new kitchen area, thus disconnecting the internet connectivity.

Luckily for me, I did not cut these wires, and the connections were in the same general place, so fixing the problem did not mean re-wiring. Savings: $150 of wiring.

Now, the sheetrock is almost hung, and I am no longer in the workman's way, but as a happy note by my estimation I have saved $1,000 + materials, some of which I had.

Good for me, now I can give up my second job. At least until the painting begins.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007

The order of things.

The contractor was supposed to start on the new kitchen on Monday and I'm still at a bit of a loss as to what exactly they are going to do and in what order.

I say, "was supposed to start on Monday" because as I began writing this blog I got a call from my wife saying that the cabinets are delayed by two weeks, and I don't understand fully how that impacts them starting on Monday.

By my estimate this is how I think it will go for the 3 months they say they are going to be around:
  1. Demo the space
    Remove all the existing cabinetry, appliances wallboard, existing floor tile.
  2. Add Framing
    Since we're moving the layout around a new structural beam needs to be added and some walls need to be moved around.
  3. Run Electrical/Piping
    Rough in all the stuff that's behind walls and under floors.
  4. Size the floor
    Make the floor flat, getting rid of existing mud and putting in plywood floors to work on.
  5. Replace the windows
    Some windows are going, some are being added.
  6. Lay radiant heating
    Since the radiant heating is going to be under the floor tiles, this needs to be done earlier than later.
  7. Lighting
    Put up new lighting options for recessed lights.
  8. Sheetrock walls
    Cover up all of the stuff to get ready for cabinetry
  9. Tile Floor
    I assume this gets done before the cabinets are hung.
  10. Install Cabinets
    Rough in the cabinets and make room for appliances.
  11. Install Appliances
    This all needs to be in to do the counter tops.
  12. Install Counter tops
    Stuff needs to be measured for the appliances and the actual room.
  13. Tile Backsplash
    Now that the counter tops and cabinets are in we can do some cosmetic stuff.
  14. Install Fixtures/Water
    Once the counter tops are in, the task of connecting all the parts begins.
  15. Finish Electrical/Lighting
    Put boxes in where the roughing was done for switches and appliances.
  16. Lay Wood Floors
    Part of the space has wood flooring in the dining area.
  17. Paint Walls
    This is my part of the whole job, and will save about 3 grand from the construction price if I do it myself
  18. Finish floors
    After all the construction guys are gone, it is our responsibility to get the wood floor finished. This is an additional few hundred dollars that are not in the estimate.
So, the question becomes, if the cabinets are step 10, why is there a delay in starting, and what can we do to minimize other delays.

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Sunday, April 8, 2007

Why does a kitchen cost so much.

I don't know why a kitchen costs so much.

You get yourself a drink, make a sandwich that's pretty much it. Apparently though it costs a lot for the mayo.

But seriously, I was as crazed as you for the cost of getting a kitchen done. The first time I heard the 80 grand number I though they were kidding. Then I thought they thought I was a sucker and promptly walked out the door. But then I did some research. I started pricing things out with different people and places and the number from the high end place I walked out of was eerily similar to Home Depot, Lowe's and the contractors we spoke to.

I was stuck. But for you appreciation I'll break it down a bit in cost order.
I'll also revise this as time goes on:

Labor & General Supplies: $40,000
There's no getting around it, its expensive to have people rip up your walls, put new ones in and move plumbing around. This is also where a large part of the differential is for replacing in place and moving the kitchen layout around.

This also however includes general supplies such as 2x4s, wallboard, tape & joint compound, plywood, grout and mud for the floors and piping stuff.

Counter tops: $15,000ish (still unknown)
Depending on what materials we use, this can increase the cost of the job. Stone or a composite materials are our choices.

Appliances: $15,000ish (still unknown)
There are a host of appliances including a stove, double oven, microwave, two dishwashers (it's a kosher kitchen), small drink fridge (my only part of the kitchen), 2 sinks, and 2 garbage disposals.

Cabinets: $17,000
Cabinets are where we saved a bit of money. While 17k is a lot, we also have a very big space. Kitchenscapes which does semi-custom cabinets was a great find. Because they are semi-custom (not true custom) it can be mass produced at a good quality. (Not the 80's crap that is in all the kitchens today).

Windows $5,000ish (maybe less)
Its unclear if the new windows and skylight is included in the cost especially the Pella windows my wife wants and not the Anderson windows the contractor wants to put in.

Floor Tile: $5,000
Not included in the general supplies. We have yet to pick it out.

Fixtures: $1000
Also not included are fixtures for sinks and knobs for drawers.

Grand Total: $98,000.00

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Saturday, April 7, 2007

The new Kitchen.

A number of months ago I relented in letting my wife get a new kitchen.
At the time we had a number of options including:
  • Leaving the kitchen as is.
    This was not a popular option but it would save me the most money.
  • Re-doing the kitchen in place.
    This was the most cost effective option. It would get me a new kitchen at about 1/2 the cost of the last option.
  • Moving the kitchen layout around.
    The most expensive and time consuming option.

Now, if I went for the sensible option, we were talking about 40-50 grand (close 'dem mouths, this was the GOOD option), if we went with the most expensive option, then it would be 80-100 grand.

From my perspective my choices were pretty clear cut. If I go for the less expensive option then my wife would not be happy, and in the long run I guess I wouldn't be. The more expensive option was about 50 grand more, but at least she would be happy for a long time (so I hope).

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